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Would You Buy SpaceX Stock? Don & Kelly Debate the $2 Trillion IPO

With Kelly and Don Season 2 Episode 64

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SpaceX is about to launch the biggest IPO in history — a $75 billion public offering that could value the company at nearly $2 trillion. But here's the thing: SpaceX has NEVER been profitable.

Welcome to Episode #64 of Two Awesome People — this week, Don and Kelly head to Wall Street with zero financial expertise and a lot of questions about the rumored SpaceX IPO. 

What even is an IPO? Why would SpaceX go public? Is Starlink the money machine? Is Elon Musk the reason to invest — or the reason to run away?

We break down SpaceX from a “normal person” perspective: rockets, Mars, asteroid mining, Starlink, space data centers, exploding valuations, and whether this whole thing is a brilliant bet on the future or just the most expensive sci-fi movie ticket ever sold.

Plus: Kelly decides whether she’d go to space, Don explains bulls and bears badly, and we play Crazy Billionaire Acting Crazy or Crazy Brilliant Idea?

Disclaimer: We are not financial advisors. This is entertainment, not investment advice. Please do not make financial decisions based on two people saying “Flavortown” whenever they don’t know something.

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 — Come on down to Wall Street
00:25 — What is an IPO?
01:05 — Why the SpaceX IPO feels massive
03:16 — What is Starlink?
04:40 — SpaceX, xAI, rockets, and money pits
05:36 — Are we SpaceX fans?
08:56 — Would Kelly go to space?
11:28 — Is this a cultural moment?
13:12 — SpaceX investor vs. crypto guy
16:07 — The core investor bet: Starlink funds Starship
17:35 — Is Elon the reason to buy or run away?
23:49 — Could SpaceX stock lose?
24:47 — Quiz: Crazy Billionaire or Crazy Brilliant?
27:31 — Final verdict: would we invest?
30:32 — Give It Time: Maycember is over
31:35 — Recommendations: dead time and TV
32:36 — Closing thoughts

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Come on down to Wall Street with us, a bunch of amateurs, and Elon Musk. Um, I'm a financial wizard, Kelly. Oh, my bad. Bigger than Coke, bigger than Netflix, bigger than Disney. It's the biggest thing since sliced bread. You know what I'm talking about, Kelly? Cyber truck. We're talking about SpaceX IPO. I was close. Close. No cigar. June 12th, the IPO is happening. What does that mean, Don? What's an IPO? Let's get this out of the way. We're not financial wizards. We're just two people who are reacting to the biggest news there is. What was your question? Jesus. Take two. What's an IPO? For us financial dum-dums, an IPO is when a private company sells shares to the public for the first time. You can own a company. Teeny tiny little bit. Teeny tiny little bit. The little crumb of the company. If we're going to buy SpaceX, we would own like a screw. Yeah, that probably gets incinerated. And so we wanted to talk about this today because it's like super big news that everybody's talking about. And we're going to look at it from a lum lum perspective. That's what we are. We are. The IPO is the biggest in history. If Disney became an IPO, it's going to be bigger than Disney at Disney's current size. Rockets are going to be more valuable than Mickey Mouse. Elon Musk is more valuable than Mickey Mouse. So basically, when we don't know something, we're just going to go with the word flavor town. That's our go-to word. And there's going to be a lot of that said in this episode. Okay. I think this matters because it's not just about SpaceX going public. This is Elon asking all of us in some bananas insane future where we harness the sun's power mine asteroids and freaking live on Mars. So the disclosure outlines the business model for the company, right? Right. Their disclosure was very fluffy. It was like an essay all about how we don't want humans to end up like dinosaurs and we need to explore the stars and colonize elsewhere. He's basically looking to save humanity, I guess. I mean, awesome. Really, everybody should invest in saving humanity. But then the question is like, will you really do that? I think his mission statement is like, go meet aliens. No. Save humanity and meet aliens. I guess so. But that's what you're investing in with the IPO and the stock. It's not a profitable business right now. Right. And so you're in paying all this money and all this valuation to buy into saving humanity. It's very, I don't know what the form of synergy is. Synergetic. Like it's the company is very like a big sphere, and there's lots of things in it. Right. SpaceX and all this other stuff are like playing together. It's like five kids in a trench coat. You're not only investing in space travel necessarily, right? SpaceX basically owns several different corporations right now, and some are successful and some are not. They own Starlink. What's Starlink? Oh, good question. Yeah. Do tell, Don. You tell. No, you. You. Starlink is a satellite-based internet service. So it provides fast speed internet to rural areas. Globally. Anywhere a cable can't reach, you can get internet now from Starlink. I'm gonna give us some numbers about Starlink. I have to go down in deep into my notes. So Starlink jumped from 2.3 million subscribers in 2023. Do you have to subscribe to Starlink? You don't get it for free. But on airplanes, you get it for free. Airline is paying, Kelvin. Airline subscribe. You then buy a ticket, and in that ticket includes someone in Africa, are they subscribing? Flavortown. Flavortown. Go ahead. Continue. So I do know that Starlink went from 2.3 million in 2023 to 10.3 in March 2026. That's great. So in three years it more than tripled. That's like Savannah Bananas size growth. Oh, explain. No, I'm just saying. You just brought in trick baseball. That's like the growth of that. So you can watch Savannah Bananas through Starling. And then you would be celebrating the growth of two enterprises. SpaceX also owns XAI, a money suck. Right. The rocket business also doesn't make any money. Which is crazy to me. They're building rockets that cost a billion of billions of dollars and then they just blow up. Well, they don't all blow up. They truth. I mean, it's pretty neat when they like work out. Yeah, when they land. Yeah. Have you seen it where like Yeah. It looks like you're watching a takeoff in reverse. It's mind-boggling. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So are you a fan of SpaceX? Um yeah, I think I am in terms of like not financial. No, I mean, yeah. I was also thinking just yes. Why? Because I like its goals and efforts. You like its goals and efforts. It's like led by the kind of mad scientist man who will figure everything out. I mean, I know that that's like pretty simplistic in its explanation, but that's how I feel about it. I think that's a perfect explanation. Us dum-dums over here, non-experts, are just like, let's send rockets to space. Cool. I mean, you like SpaceX? I freaking love it. Yeah, see? More than anything, it provides a lot of hope and excitement to kind of humanity. It's like, hell yeah. As you were talking, I was thinking of a devil's advocate argument on this. Oh, you weren't just thinking, God, you're stupid. No, I went. Could you shut up now? I don't know if I should introduce this argument or if it's gonna lead us down a rapid side. Is it gonna be a flavor town situation? No, it's just Is Kelly going dark? You could also look at it where the attitude of SpaceX, perhaps, is we have fucked up Earth. No. No, let me let me finish. Let me finish. Let me throw open my mic. Okay. So we've made a mess of things and we need to go colonize elsewhere to save humanity, to avoid the fate of the dinosaurs. But maybe all that money could be poured into like a rehabilitation kind of eco-friendly thing instead. Got it. Thank you. I totally do not subscribe to this. The fate of the dinosaurs were not because they screwed up the earth. I said I liked SpaceX too. I was just thinking about that in terms of like the amount of money that's being poured into it. Pushing humanity forward is so exciting. And if it leads to something a lot bigger, it will retroactively fix stuff. Yeah, that's probably true. It's let's go to the moon because we're why do companies do IPOs? Why don't they stay private? To raise money. Oh, it gives them money to do that. They've reached the point of like needing more than just private investors, basically. This is set to possibly raise $75 billion for them. And so that's $75 billion. Yeah, just a little chunk of change. What you're doing here in buying their stock is you're not buying the company for the valuation because the stock is going to be massively overpriced. You're buying into a future. Look at you. You're like a salesman. Do you want to invest in the future? Here you go, Elon. Good luck. He is like a mad scientist. I mean, it's freaking awesome. Um, sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes the IPO is like buying the biggest sci-fi movie ticket ever. Let's buy this ticket and see how this plays out. Right. So when you hear SpaceX IPO, what do you think? Business, business, business. I think numbers and business and dollars. According to a lot of the analysts that I've read in my research, 1.75 to $2 trillion is way above what the company is actually worth based on their revenue, based on their growth, based on this, all these other factors. It just seems like a freaking Austin Powers move. Yeah, it is one trillion dollars. I mean, there's a doctor evil element to the mad scientist persona. Would you go to space? Are we talking just like for a sightseeing trip? No, we're saying, does Kelly want to go to the moon, step out onto the moon surface, get back in the rocket, and come home? So my old self, like when I was probably like a teenager, I wanted to be an astronaut. Oh, really? Yes. Did you work towards that, or was it just like the array of things I wanted to be when I grew up is wide, but very specific. Stand-up comedian, waitress flight attendant, astronaut, newscaster. That was it. Those were my plans. You could be a newscaster who serves food in space. Stand-up comedian flight attendant would be perfect. Anyways, so yeah, I used to want to go to space very much. Now I would have like fear and concern about it. It seems like a risk, but I guess it probably isn't really. I just want to like float through the capsule and stuff, you know? This is how I would do it. I would call it this. You just want to be weightless. And like use the little radio and drink stuff by just squirting it into the air and like lopping it up. What would you say to Houston? Houston, we got a problem. I got a stinky. Oh my god, Don. Would you go to space? You wouldn't. Why? I like it right where I am, right here. I'll watch somebody to go to space. You are like an old man in a chair. Yep. I am happy right here. Going to space sounds like fucking miserable. I'd get out and be cold. I'm sorry. You would get out and be cold. I don't think you would be cold. I'm sure that NASA has that all figured out. It just looks desolate and cold and void of humanity. So it seems like when astronauts come back from space, like the months on No, it seems the opposite. Oh. Oh. All right. Next, next topic. Oh, tell me more. No, I mean, usually they have a new perspective. Yeah. They sort of like appreciate the majesty of Earth, Don. I don't need to go 200,000 miles away to appreciate the majesty of Earth. I'm looking at you. Sit in your armchair and watch the Dodger game. All I have to do is watch you, watch the Dodgers, and watch my kids, and I'm like, Earth is freaking great. This is majestic. This is majestic. All right. This is a huge, massive cultural moment because all of that science fiction shit is actually happening. You think that the IPO is a cultural moment? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Isn't the cultural moment more just when the company like started? Sure, but which I got a quick fact for you. Let's hear it. The company SpaceX started in 2002 before Elon Musk joined Tesla. Uh, anyways, uh, yes, I view it as a cultural moment more than when SpaceX started because it's asking everybody to buy in to his idea. And when he first started it, nobody knew what SpaceX was in 2002. And now essentially there will be a number of how many people believe in this, and that number is the stock price. Right. The valuation and the cost of the stock price is not going to be equal to the what the company is actually worth. It's going to be equal to what people believe in. So if the stock on day one goes through the roof, everybody's like, wow, I love this. I want to be a part of this. If the stock caters, then everybody's like, this is a fucking bullshit. There's no way we're doing any of this shit. Can a company have an IPO in multiple countries? Flavortown. Flavortown, Flavortown, Flavortown. As if you don't know, flavor town's our key word about we have no idea what we're talking about. But my understanding is that you list in one country, the New York Stock Exchange is the premier market to list in. Thank you for answering my question with such confidence and knowledge. None at all. All right. Would you rather be stuck in an elevator with an excited SpaceX investor or with the crypto guy from 2021? A SpaceX investor. Give me the SpaceX guy over the crypto guy any day. Because the crypto guy is fucking annoying. Not even just that. Like cryptocurrency is still kind of mystical to me. Right. The crypto guy would be more like explaining an abstract concept. There's a bunch of numbers in a computer that are worth money. Yeah. And I just my brain does not work that way. So I could not have a for real conversation. At least the SpaceX investor like has a tangible rocket, real thing that we can see and like know about. So it's much easier. That's where I think that SpaceX separates itself from all these other companies. The AI ones. Yeah, the AI companies. It's like, dude, this is real. Right. They're shooting people up into space. Don't say it like that. That doesn't sound safe or comfortable. They're shooting people up into space. They're putting them in cannons and just launching people up into space. They put on the helmet, they get in the cannon, and they go. Right. SpaceX is also what um would be launching these um AI data centers, right? Yes. Got it. And they want to mine asteroids. What's in an asteroid? Minerals, metals. Oh, metals. To then make stuff. Do we need more metals? Yeah. Oh. Are you just saying that because you think it's cool? Or do we really like have a metals shortage? No, metals are a huge issue. Okay. That's like why politics go over and like get precious metals from all sorts of different countries. So they want to mine an asteroid? Correct. Meaning land on a moving asteroid, or would you like harness the asteroid and like catch it? I think they'd put out a giant net in space. That'd be really fun. That's like Looney Tunes. And it'll wrap around and then somebody will pull it in, it'll have a giant. Or you do like a lasso. I think that's what they're after. All right. I don't know how they're gonna harness the asteroid. I assume they're gonna land on it, but I have no idea. I like the idea of harnessing it instead. Yeah. Capturing an asteroid. That is one of their real goals to make money. Basically, they're just saying everything in the sky, everything in space would be SpaceX. Right now, 80% of everything that goes up into space has comes from SpaceX, basically, or is SpaceX is involved with. Look at that. I know another number. You know so many numbers on 80%. I got one there. Don't ask anybody. So Reuters described the core investor bet. The what? The corn? What did she say? Reuters described the core investor bet. They kind of broke down what it's not that weird that I heard corn investor. Yeah, the corn investor bet. I'm investing in corn. Basically, Starlink funds Starship, which Starship's like the rockets. Starship lowers the cost of launches, right? But then becomes financially possible. And that unlocks the bigger space future because they're able to send stuff up there cheaper. So basically, Starlink needs to make more money. And I'm not sure how you grow that business. More subscribers. People paying more money to them. Business, business, business. Bringing down the cost to go into space then allows them to do these other things that could bring in revenue, such as mine asteroids, put data centers in space. All of that becomes unlocked when it's cheap to send it up. Bananas. Yeah, I mean, my mind is working. Your mind is like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What time do the Dodgers play today? They don't play today, Don. See, you knew. Impressive. Um, okay. So is Elon the reason you buy it or the reason you run away from it? Elon would be the reason why I have paused. You can like him as an innovator, a dreamer, Don, but I don't think he's a good person. Does he need to be a good person? Well, yeah. I do actually think that you want innovation from a good person as opposed to a terrible person. I think that he owns like so much of the company that he basically can never be fired. I think he's controlling around approximately 86% or so. Look at that. When I was reading about it, I literally was thinking like who would take this over when he dies? Well, that was the Apple issue with Steve Jobs was who would take this over when he dies? Because the company is so tied to him. Yeah. That if he, let's say, were to die, what happens to SpaceX? Elon Musk gives me pause. What about you? What do you think? I like him. I think about Don. You can't make statements like that. You like him like as a person? No, I don't know him as a person. So I can't say I like him as a person. But for humanity, he provides more than he takes away. You're looking at me like I'm crazy talk over here. Well, yeah. I don't think I'm an Elon disciple like I was a Steve Jobs disciple. Right. But I do think that Elon had revolutionized cars. Cars went from basically being gas guzzlers to now Ferrari has released an EV and he popularized EVs. He made it so that everybody wanted an EV, or people wanted an EV. Both of us don't have those, but Teslas. But he changed the course of cars. I would say that he kind of has like ADD when it comes to these things. X, I would say an ADD moment. Yes. 100%. Completely lost his mind, went for the wrong business. Yeah. Yeah. Jumped into X, X AI, his AI. Even like Doge? Like what the hell? And this is the downside is his 130-day doge mess. Like, let's keep Elon out of government. Disastrous. Totally. Also, the open AI lawsuit right now. Right. Elon, stay out of the open AI and the lawsuits. Let's focus on sending everybody to space. Maybe we should send him to space and he could work from there. Then we might all win. I feel like also, like the Messiah complex, like you were saying, that feeds into his like have wanting and having so many babies. There's a lot of ick there. He has 14 kids with four moms. I don't even know if I'd remember 14 kids' names. He also has some intense substance abuse. Is that alleged? This is what I found on the net. The old net is investigation of reports highlight that he uses recreational and medical drug use far more than the public. Doesn't he do ketamine or something? Yeah, he does ketamine, but also ecstasy, psychedelics, and other. That's great. You want the person sending up the rockets to be a drug use. He was probably on drugs when he came up with the Cybertruck. Or he was on drugs when he was like, let's harness the sun's power. I got an idea, guys. No, it would be great. Let's go out and meet aliens. Let's make a really wack-a-doo car. I got a car with a lot of straight lines that looks like a doorstop. Yeah. Perfect. In 2025, SpaceX bought 18% of cyber trucks, all cyber trucks sold. Yeah. $131 million. Do you think they're just like in a parking lot somewhere? They'd like to gift them as bonuses. And the employees are like, I don't want this. I'm not a douchebag. I don't need this. To all those cyber truck owners, I apologize. John, there's not that many of them. Are they even making cyber trucks anymore? I would like to think that the company would learn a lesson from that and pivot away as a To just like force the brother company to like eat it every year. They have a lot of failure. Right. Their rockets do blow up. All of this fails because what they're attempting for, you have to have a lot of failure. But I just don't know if Elon Musk is capable anymore of admitting failure. If you're going to innovate, you have to also admit defeat. I don't know if you have to dem admit defeat. I don't agree there. Yes, he's had a lot of success, but there have been a lot of failures or defeats. And I think he would spin every one of them. Every one of them is a glorious success to him. In baseball, if you This is not baseball. Yes, but you're missing the larger picture. Okay. On your way to success, you might lose a few battles to win the war. That's fine, but you admit that you lose. You don't have to admit. You can admit that they are learning lessons onto the next one. What do you want them to come out and say? It was a total failure. No, we learned a lot of stuff. Part of being successful is he could say that. He could say we learned a lot of stuff. Did he learn a lot of stuff from Doge? Learn a lot of stuff from that court case? I don't think he's ever said that. To be successful, you have to have a brain that does not do that. You have to have a brain that is like a fish. A gold wipes clean. Yeah. Because if you're so concerned about your failures, you will not succeed. It's the baseball mentality. We call it flush it. When you have a failure, you flush it. Just like you have a giant turd, you flush it. Like poop. Yeah. One thing that they stated in their disclosure for their IPO, uh SpaceX, is we have a history of net losses and may not achieve profitability in the future. The company is saying we may never make money. So if they don't make money, does this is the stock like is the company built in a way that the stock won't ever lose? The stock could absolutely lose. And that's the foundation of all of this. Right. Is you're not betting on the company. Yeah. You're betting on this wild dream. You're playing the long game. They're gonna colonize Mars game. Yeah. If they can do it, then it's gonna be the most uh important company in history. Yeah. The most revolutionary company in history, instantly. Maybe not instantly. Oh my god, I'm so affected. They did it. Wow. Oh, that was an instant. Quiz me, Don. Quiz me. Crazy billionaire acting crazy or crazy brilliant idea. Okay. You like this one? Yeah. This is a good quiz. Should I repeat it? No. I always feel the need to repeat it. You don't need to. All right. What if your refrigerator could order groceries before you even know you're out? Crazy billionaire acting crazy. That's the refrigerator assuming that I want the same thing. Maybe I wanted to try the other flavor. Maybe a different fruit is in season. I don't need that. What if chairs could detect sadness and recline automatically? No, crazy billionaire acting crazy. I like that one. All of these things are making assumptions that I'm not comfortable with. What if you created a mattress that gently launches you out of bed when your alarm goes off? I think that that is unnecessary. Maybe for some people that would be good. For getting our son out of bed. Aren't there alarm clocks that um glow? Yeah, like they get brighter. That's what I'm saying. What if it's your mattress that does something? So we'll say that one's well and even the recliner. I just would hesitate to call that brilliant. Moving on. What if dogs could text you what they're thinking? It would be cool. And it would also be funny because what if like you really loved your dog and then you got this thing, and then your dog bugged the shit out of you and you did not love your dog anymore? Kelly, I love you. Kelly, I love you. Kelly, I love you. And you're like, oh my gosh. All right, you know what? I would take off whatever the feature is. Throw my ball, throw my ball, throw my ball. What if your house could sense when guests have stayed too long and slowly dim the lights? I don't need that because my husband does that. Time to go. What if we created plants that could tell you when you're being too confident? Like a house plant? Yes. Sure. I would be down with that. You're being too confident at the moment. Check yourself. Check yourself. Let's check yourself. Get real. And the last one, what if we sent data centers to space? I mean, I guess that's brilliant. I have concern about space, meaning like it getting too crowded. Because I always hear that there's like a lot of satellites up there, right? But then at the same time, like it's called space. There shouldn't be like a lot of it. Inherently, there's a lot of space. So I don't really know if like my concern is grounded in anything real. Space junk. It's unlikely to be. We need a big space trash can. Like a vacuum. Maybe Elon can get on that. We'll just push the stuff towards a black hole. That's basically the kind of cleanup that we're headed for. All right. For our verdict, Kelly. Yes. Do you invest in SpaceX IPF? Yes. I yes. Yes. Why? I get the impression that it's a safe bet to make, financially speaking. I know that we're also talking about like the societal implications of supporting a business like that and everything. What do you think, Don? I think that SpaceX, the stock is going to act like a meme stock and have wild swings. I think it's going to launch. Yes. Oh, I see what you did. At the beginning. And then will it land? And then it's going to explode. I explode is good. When a rocket explodes, it is not good. Yeah, but if a stock explodes. I think it's going to come out headed towards the stars, and then it's going to come crashing back down to Earth. Okay. And then I think about three months after it comes crashing down to Earth, it's going to rebound and then we'll set on a better trajectory. Why do you think it will crash initially? Day one, everybody's going to dive into it. It's going to be a mayhem grab all. Oh. Launch for the street. We're throwing elbows. We're throwing elbows. Right. It's it's chaos. Okay. And it goes through the roof right off the bat. And about two weeks later, three weeks later, when everybody freaking everybody comes back down to earth. Everybody just settles their heads. Settles their heads. When their heads get settled. When their heads get settled, the stock will maybe be cut in half. Um, if not, it'll be cut in a third. Okay. And that's the time to buy. Bye, buy, buy, buy, buy. Buy low and sell high, Don. Buy low, sell high. That's the lesson here. My verdict is to buy, but don't buy on day one. All right. Good. Should we look at Don and Kelly versus the AI? Sure. We're asking Claude, should we buy SpaceX IPO? I am not a financial advisor, so this is informational, not recommendation. The bull case, according to Claude. Do you know what a bull is? It's an animal. Rah-rah on the stock market. And then there's the bear case. That's like boo-boo. Oh. That's Don's Bull and Bear. It shouldn't be a bear. It should be something sadder. Like a donkey. Like a snail. Yeah. All right. The bull case. SpaceX dominates commercial launches, satellite internet with a near monopoly. Long-term upside, the space economy is in its early innings. Mars mission, starship, star link expansion is a multi-decade growth driver. The bear case. That's a long answer. Yes. Significant losses, controlled risk, valuation concern, IPO timing risk, and XAI drag. It's lost a lot of money. I think that what Claude is saying is this. Go talk to a financial advisor. I'm so glad that we asked. Moving on. Yes, let's move on. Do you have any predictions, Don, this week? Anything that you would say? Give it time. We have survived May Sumber. Indeed. Chaos of May. And my prediction is there is going to be a collective sigh. It's been a long school year. And a crazy May. So my prediction is Your prediction is an exhale. Okay. My give it time is tied to my recommendation. You've got a double. I think it's sort of like the summer of entertainment. A lot of big movies are coming out. I'm looking forward to the Steven Spielberg movie. I did not know that. Disclosure day. You want to go see it in the theater? I do. Oh, I do, Dawn. Uh, so I'm just gonna say give it time because I think that the summer is gonna be kind of like a chill, entertainment focused season that I'm ready for. Nice. And that leads perfectly into my one last thing. My recommendation is to leave dead time this summer. Don't call it dead time. Dead time where you lay around and act dead. Is that for real? I was gonna say call it downtime. That's calling it dead time. We're gonna have some dead time. Get bored. You will change your tune when the boys are bored, and then they say, I'm bored, and then you'll change your mind on that. My recommendation is TV. Just in general? I don't know if you've all heard of it, but TV right now is quite good. It used to be May sweeps was the big thing, and that's when TV shows ended. And then summer was just this like all nothing but reruns. But now it's like it's a constant deluge of TV shows that are really good. And I really enjoy watching it. Right now, I really want to watch hacks. Final season. Kelly, thank you for discussing the future of humanity with me. Whoa. There's nobody I would rather discuss the future with than you. I that's lovely. I hope it's for a good reason and not just like because you're so dumb. It's really funny. Yeah, it's it's hilarious. Let's spend all our savings on SpaceX IPO and hold our hands as we go into the future. I don't want to do that either. All right, whatever. All right. Well, thank you for listening andor watching. Leave us a review, subscribe, like, and share with a friend if you enjoyed this. Yeah. Let us know if you liked on shirt. Thank you for listening this week. Thank you for chatting this week. We'll see you next week. Bye bye.